第3526章 【3526】以防万一
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第3526章【3526】以防万一
挂了发小的电话之后,再来通电话。
原来在她离开国陟的期间,大家按照早上开完会医生们的共识,在患者康复撤机前一系列准备的过程中开始尝试肺复张操作,结果好像出问题了。
电话是王主任亲自打来问的,不明白地问她:“你不是说,病人差不多可以撤机了吗?”
心急吃不了热豆腐,这话在临床上一样非常地适用。
本来有了另一个病人以后,最该焦急的是她谢婉莹,现在看来完全不是。说明医生心态急不急,实际上要看医生自身对病人病情的技术有多少比例的把控底气。
听着王主任这句焦虑万分的话,谢婉莹只记得自己早上并没有说过患者可以撤机了。
ecmo撤机本身是个很复杂的事情。
医生不能说随便给患者撤机了,等患者再不行再插管。要知道,股动脉拔出来后要做血管壁修补手术的,可见上机这事儿是有多伤害患者的血管。
患者自身血管一共那么几条,不可能有无限条重要血管给医生做多次尝试。保护血管向来是临床医生考虑的重点之一。
况且这患者除了上ecmo机以外上了呼吸机和血滤机。机器哪个先撤后撤全部是需要医生认真思考的问题。甚至谨慎的话,医生会在撤机前先不拔管尝试停机24小时观察后做决定。
她之前建议的调整呼吸机参数给病人做肺复张训练,是给患者塌陷的肺鼓气,促进患者的肺功能早点康复。这其实只是患者撤机前肺功能康复过程的第一步。
不要忘了张大佬给患者采用的是vaecmo模式,里头包含了对患者的心功能支持。如果要撤膜肺,除了观察患者的肺功能情况,心功能情况是同样必不可少的。
总结起来是,要患者心肺功能均恢复到门槛指标之后再能撤膜肺。心肺功能指标测算是有非常复杂的验证工作去做的,不是简简单单看个血液报告或其它单一报告可以断定下来。
如心功能指标,医生除日常观察膜肺机参数以及心电图等常规项目,撤机前是要必做特殊的心功能检查,为以前说过很多遍查起来能更明确心脏功能的经食道超声心动图检查。
不止仪器检查,患者的用药情况对医生来说同是个非常重要的参考值。比如说,撤机后,若不想插管,理想的状态当然是要有可代替机器的手段,首选血管活性和正性肌力药物。能不能用药来代替机器的效果以防万一,是需要临床医生做研判和撤机前实验的。
一般来说,撤机前降低膜肺流量的时候做尝试撤机的同时注入一定量上述药物,可以做出相关的大致评估。
电话里听着谢同学说的这一连串讲义之后,国陟icu的王主任再次深深感受到了听谢老师讲课的重要性,掏出笔来记时有点迟了,心里头不由想着等会儿要再去找张大佬让张大佬留人才。
没有谢老师指导的话,他们这会儿摸索时难以避免会把病人当小白鼠折腾了,而且说不好要折腾死病人了。
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